Ordinarily I did close it down every 2 hours, but lately it's been taking a full reboot of the system, restart the computer, when P5 is having a hissy fit about finding textures to render. Yeah, it drives me to distraction. Pro Pack was definetly less buggy but I can't go back to that library nightmare! My dream is to set up enough firewire drives to have about 4 Poser installs-- one for fantasy, one for V3, one for Sci-Fi, one for a comic I never get around to doing. But you know I would need something from Fantasy in the sciFi one. Besides trying to keep track of textures and geometries. Why did I fall under the spell of this proggie? Emily