Scary stories from people who aren't using or haven't even installed the software are worth.... what? Hmmm????? Complaining about a product which is still in shrinkwrap seems a trifle out-of-line. Repeating what others have said is equally valueless, especially if THEIR box is still in shrinkwrap also. It is grist for gossip, but hardly a determinant for a purchase. With a competing product in development, it is also worthwhile to see who is doing the talking; not everybody is upfront about their agenda. There are people who are currently using Poser 5. Some of them have problems and some of them don't. Some of them are doing amazing things and having fun, others are tearing out their hair because the learning curve requires that they apply themselves. Anybody who uses a disposable camera will have trouble with a Nikon, but it isn't the fault of the Nikon. I'd pay attention to the people who are working with it before making a decision as to whether the program is right for you. Find out how much other experience they have and their system specs. Base a decision upon facts, not rumors, especially if money is tight. Also determine what you yourself want to do. If all you want is to point&click and get a render of a naked vicky with the latest body jewels then this program might be daunting. If you want clothing with real folds, a displacement-mapped carpet and a mirror behind reflecting the light from the candle (etc.), and are willing to spend time setting things up, then you can work some magic. Carolly