Well, It's like anything else ShadowDragonLord, you can make things the easy way, or put more work into it and the results will show. Just to let you know, for the last 3 days I have done nothing but Bryce HDR work for 12+ hours a day. Ask Agent if you don't believe me. Ive pestered him plenty.(I'm disabled so Im home all day, thats why my typing is so bad :) So who is the lazy one? The ones that look for more realistic lighting, or the ones who just use whats there? Im not coming down on you, don't get me wrong, but if we just accept how things are, things will never improve or get better. When HDR, Radiosity, and true lighting are done correctly the results are outstanding. Go to Lightwaves website , newtek.com and look at there gallery. That is what Global illumination and radiosity can do for you.Or go to splutterfish and look at those renderings. Again, that realism is acheived with what we are attempting to do. If that doesn't float your boat and your happy slapping a few poser figures into a poorly lit scene, then by all means. But if your like me, and Im happy to see that a few are, and your biggest thing is realism, then you should look outside the box. Im sure when Corel was working on Bryce 5 they never intended for people to be using lightdomes or "tricking" the render engine into doing pseudo radiosity. Im not upset, but it does bother me to see a person make a comment about laziness when they don't have all the facts or can't appreciate the work some people put in to bring these "lazy" features or ideas. .. Stepping of the soapbox now.