I don't even know what my first render was. It was years ago, in Poser 2. I think it was just a close up of a face with no features on it. Pretty boring. I know I don't have it anymore. I didn't bother to save them back then. I was just playing with the program more than anything, and Poser 2 people were so lifeless they weren't worth saving anyway. At least my renders weren't. Melanie