I bought it, kept it in shrink wrap till the final patch-- which I hope isn't the final patch. I love Poser 5. I love dynamic hair, I love FireFly, everything else looks pallid next to it. Is it buggy? Are there alligators in Louisiana?? As far as I can tell 5 has almost the same kinds of major bugs that Pro Pack and 4 has, I can only work an hour, 2 hours 3 hours and it Will freeze, no doubt in the world. The problem is, I can't do as much in two hours as I could with PP because 5 is soooo slow. So, yes, I'm frustrated, I can't learn it fast enough because my patience wears out at all the reboots-- now I have to reboot my computer as well. And I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to do the multiperson scenes I did with Pro Pack-- the memory is not there. I have a high end machine, 2.4G processor 2 Gs of ram, 60G free space. XP Home. I'd truly like to love this thing but if the memory leaks don't get fixed, I'm sunk and will have to go back to my cannibalised Pro Pack libraries and be in library hell again. I can practically point and click and pose a naked Vicky with a sword. And that's Vicky 3 but that's not the problem-- it will take about 5 renders to get the lighting right and that takes at least 2 to 3 hours, maybe a reboot. That's without the P4 lights that make it crash. I took those off. Do I recommend anyone else put themselves through this? NO! Emily