thats one reason i like poser pro pack vs. poser 4, cuts out alotta manual editing that you had to do before with a external editor, and is simpler to use a pre existing joint structure and modify the joint structure in the setup room. also cuts out alot of frustration trying to get the joint setup 'juuust right' when moving the end points. Kinda like setting up a joint system for halflife models in milkshape3d, simple and easy.