Links: http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~wfd/freelance.php3?mod=WFUT http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~wfd/official.php3?mod=WFUT sigh... those were the days :) (The CTF Map "Suicidal Pride" is a semi-adapted model of RMS Titanic, incidentally, and like all my freelance maps, work just fine in normal CTF as well as WFUT. I just wish I wasn't still so damned burned out from the days of being part of the WFUT dev team or I'd clean up my current maps and make even more... My second fave is Jihad, a Linux vs. Microsoft CTF map.) I still hop around v.436 now and then, though I LOVE the eye-candy on 2003 and play single-player a lot on it (I just wish the netcode didn't suck so bad...) ah well - when I finally decide to quit putzing around in Cg art and get back into gaming... one of these years... :) Cheers, /P