tell'em to go phuck themselvews. There are a lot of pretentious whiners who bitch and whine about little things like using setups and whatnot, and questioning different techniques, likely because they themselves don't have the courage to get themselves out of the rut they are obviously in and try something new. These people limit themselves and limit what they feel allowed to do. There are no "rules," though art theory majors will tell you different. These people also probably wouldn't dare quetion Man Ray's techniques, nor Jerry Uelsmann. even so bro, i still figure you coulda posted that 4x5 in the photo gallery. It's a photographic technique after all. People will do all sorts of crazy things and still call it a painting. In the end though, it's up to you. For all the people that have sticks up their asses as of late, see a proctologist already. This is gonna turn into photo.net pretty soon if everyone doesn't lighten up a bit. What you I call a photograph you may call utter trash, but that's okay, just don't be offended when I say the same about your stuff.