I have a ArtPadZ by Wacom (it preceeded the Intuous) and it is at 6 x 8, comes with pen and mouse. Anything larger would take up too much desk space IMO. Anything smaller would not be enough to really work with. The pen is awesome for anything involving image manipulation (i.e. PhotoPaint/Painter) but not as good for use with Bryce (it's mouse works fine here though). Personal opinion. Richard

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