I would recommend the Poser 4 PP bundle, because -- this is only my opinion-- I found PP more stable than Poser 4, especially in the bum map error department. Also, there are some excellent Python light paks out there, which look like they might improve rendering possibilitys considerabley and they only work in PP or 5. I do not recommend starting with 5, the learning curve is too steep to start from the bottom and the bugs don't give you a whole lot of stable on-time learning. An alternate to 4 plus PP, would be the Poser 4 Vue bundle. It does mean you have to learn two programs, but the renderer in Vue is stunning, so you could pose in Poser and render the whole thing in Vue. Emily