btw, I havent added 'lbuttock and rbuttock' to the hierachy text file so it didnt know what to do with those body parts in the pict above..however, if when I add that to the text file..itd make the whole thing by itself. I made a centiped with 181 body parts..it'd take forever to make a phi for that by hand or even with the free phi-builder.. it took me 15 seconds :P BT