Oh, scaling up Vicki and V3's heads is absolutely necessary - their heads are way too small proportionately speaking when at default. I scale up all my heads to between 110 and 115%. We're talking adult Vickis here. Younger characters will be even more, up to 120% even. Look at Yvette here for instance, I still think her head is small in relation to her body. She's lovely by the way Jim :o) and I won't make any jokes about head(s) lol :] Fish