perhaps claymor... but for some reason that seems to go against the spirit of what drac wanted from this challenge... I may be interpreting it wrong also. If we can use 2d pictures in that way, heck we could render absolutely any scened we wanted, take that render's pict and apply it to a new 2d picture in a new scene and render that.. and tada.. no imports! I think using a picture of a poser hand is the same as using an imported poser hand ;).. but just as you say.. that's just on man's opinion. That aside, I still think it's a top notch sci-fi scene!