I'll have to try morphing then exporting a face group and then applying a bump map to it, since I would love to have "portrait" masks for this project. Thank you. Also, I need to try taking the face group to Amphorium since I just read it has "Height Shop" which distorts on the basis of the luminance of a bit map. Still think Cybermesh is the thing for me when I'm able, though reviews of it all make noise about the frighteningly large files it produces. Wish they still had the demo of it out. People have sold more stuff to me by hooking me on the demo than any other way. Is there anything else out for PC like Amorphium in not being vertice/polygon based as far as the user interface? Anyone no of good stuff out there actually done with Amorphium or is it more of an executive toy type program? I do know Traveler uses/used it for making morph targets but is there any pure Amorphium art out there?