Pheeew! I'm glad you see it this way, dialyn! :-) Kendra, the hedgehog also has hair with modified with settings (root width, IIRC) which can be seen by the "triangular" look of the spikes. BTW, this is an easy way to give the spikes a more dense look, as there ar not so many of them (ca. 200-300). Willy PS: I confess, I was not in the Poser since weeks ago. But I'm planning an astronomical observatory. Buildings and all. Especially the distinct domes they use for the big guns (=telescopes ;-) are a little tricky. I have a dome with the slit and a moveable cover made in the way Dr.Geep taught us in his tutorials (cutting primitives into the needed form and making obj-files of them). See the picture above. If (and when) it's ready, it will be my first freebie here.