"As for DAZ... there is good reason to expect a lot from them. THEY ARE MAKING A TOOL THEY WANT TO USE! They're not just making an app to pay some salaries and cash out of a market they don't really understand. Everyone at DAZ will be using DAZ|Studio everyday in their work. That can ONLY make an app that is going to superior to Poser." There are so many assumptions and huge leaps of logic that you've made in the above statement which are basically impossible to prove. But you have to be careful when you reduce everything to "good guy" vs "bad guy". Daz is just as motivated by profit as CL was. That doesn't make them bad or good. Just normal business people. And who says that the folks at CL just wanted to "pay some salaries" and didn't understand their market? Maybe they did what they could with a core technology that was essentially limited from the beginning. Poser wasn't ever really designed to be a full-fledged 3D application. Trying to turn it into one might have required a ground-up rewrite of code that would have been cost-prohibitive at their current price point (bye-bye Open GL support et al). And time is also a factor, too. CL certainly needed to get something out the door by a certain time limit in order to keep the product alive. In the end, they had to successfully juggle a lot of factors to keep everything afloat. Maybe they made some bad decisions. Maybe not. But you can't automatically assume that because YOU didn't get what YOU wanted the way YOU wanted it at a price that YOU could afford that they didn't try. And the vague hint that CL was pepetrating some kind of scam on the users so that they could then "cash out" is uncalled for. I think a lot of folks at CL were good folks who did their best. Hell, they were hailed as HEROES in the days leading up to P5's release. Just go back to the relevant threads and read the embarrassingly gushing messages of praise. Back then, they were the "good guys" (which was another huge leap of logic at the time). Perhaps they were doomed from the start by limited resources. But imagine what a stink there would have been if they'd simply closed their doors altogether and never even TRIED to create a Poser 5! As for this "Daz Studio," I hope it turns out to be the be-all and end-all that the P5-detractors seem to hope it would be. But with the short patience and unforgiving attitude of a vocal minority of users here, God help them if they fail to deliver. -jjsemp