"BTW Im in the fortunate postion of being able to render my poserpro animations in a fully hardware accelerated program with true volumetrics,particle sytem cloth and fur Batch rendering(Cinema4DXl) SO im in no hurry for a simple Pose and still render preveiw app from DAZ. But it will be nice for poser users who cant afford rendering alternative Like C4DXl/LW etc.." Wow what am I missing here?I guess I should have waited and saved my money until I could afford Lightwave(Had 800 saved up)but things happen.... I will be saveing up for Lightwave....And I still will be waiting for Daz's Program good or bad it still has got to be better then my P5 right now(And yes it does work on a machine running WinXP ,just not mine running Win98SE) And I totally agree...After the BS with CL I cant see DAZ following in the footsteps of CL...Lets wait and see maybe CL is trying to work on a better Patch for P5.....Right even tho I cant seems to get to this forum unless somebody responds????.....WHY?....They went Fishing...