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I'd post this in the OT forum but that seems mostly for flames regarding Iraq *cough, sigh* Anyway been mucking around with really great map making program called Campaign Cartographer (from www.profantasy.com) makes gorgeous maps, though for large/detailed ones like I was making requires bit of effort, I'd link an image but they are *huge* (around 1 meg each), I did them out to around 2600 x 2100 so they can be printed with clarity. using Bryce, map mapping stuff and other programs you can really liven your games up! makes big difference if you can SHOW what the buildings or areas you set the adventures look like :)

Cool. BTW: That Iraq stuff is fun to follow. I don't know what they post at the OT-forum, but watching CNN every now and then can get quite interesting. So,... When is bush going to tell the world that the snow in Washington is actually a biological attack from Saddam?

Just a little scepticism towards the "Let's get to war with Iraq" attitude of the USA government and several other country's.

And ALWAYS read between the lines! That's what makes politics fun! Politicians say one thing and they mean something else. But then often the political opponent knows that, yet they can't make a statement against it, because that would let their opponent know that they know, so their answer tells something that isn't what it seems. At the same time they have some secret stuff going on that can sometimes suddenly come out when they say something between the lines again. If you can still follow this then you should be able to see how fun it can really get with all these formal and tactical twists and turns. To bad the cold war is behind us. That's when it really was like that all the time. But Follow Sadam's messages. He's full of tricks.

"Sadam's messages" doesn't mean that he posts here 8P

I'm really going way too much off topic... I'll stop taking over this thread.

Saddam's a sick SOB who needs done for war crimes. his COUNTRY doesnt need any more messing with. Hundreds of thousands of conscript troosp died last time, yah some were scum hard core swine but most were poor shmucks, and there were HUGE amounts killed, but that wans't reported much. Bush is out of his tree, or knows something he isnt telling, pushing this hard for a war is causing massive international resentment which will majorly back fire, unless there's mroe than we know. We can solve a fair amount of the serious problems in the world by a simple UN resolution: ANY POLITICIAN IN ANY COUNTRY WILL BE HELD LIABLE FOR CRIMES COMMITED, AND WILL BE CAPTURED AND TRIED BY INTERNTIONAL COURTS. it would need to be set so that the hard but necessary choices, like theatre seige in Russia where 100+ folk died due to the rescue attempt, but saved everyone else, are legitimate; and other REASONABLE but unpleasant choices are ok. But anyone in power ordering war crimes, massive fraud, etc will be taken out INTERNATIONALLY. Course no politician would back that as 90% of them are rat bags.

I think bush himself is really convinced that Iraq has a smoking gun and that it's not worth taking time to search for it. However I also think he needs the oil. He's spending waaay too much money, so he needs a bonus. I tend to stick to the view that large amounts of inspections are neccesary. When these inspections are finished we can always still decide to go to war with Iraq if that is neccesary. I don't know if bush or Powell will get to go to the international courts if they break the rules though. The USA still has a lot of power. (a bit too much if you ask me)

As for war crimes, what about Bush asking that America be absolved from anything that it does in a war situation. It's ok to take other countries leaders and soldiers to court for war crimes but not Ameriaca. Somehow that does not seem quite right. I think Bush should have a word with tjohn, perhaps he could replace some of Bushs' missing marbles.

IMHO you are in the wrong forum for this "discussion", this is the Bryce Forum.

Personally, I would appreciate a little consideration, thank you.

Bryce Forum? what's that, oh yes that's where we are. Ok it's veering away from Bryce but how many other post have done just that in this very forum. Are you saying that it is ok to veer OT if it's about sweet pleasant things, but not ok if we vent our worries and fears over what might happen in the near future. Sorry for upsetting your equilibrium, I'll now shut my mouth and go hide in a fallout shelter.

Well, we can use it as an excuse to make renders of desert landscapes. PS If you want a nice conspiracy theory, try this one: the real aim of the war camp is to stir things up so much that Bush will be able postpone the 2004 elections because of "national emergency". The the postponement becomes indefinite ... you think it can't happen here?

Phantast, I've been trying to convince myself that's not a possibility. Stop giving me reasons to move to Canada. No, I'm not entirely kidding. Anyone who even takes a passing glance at the 'Homeland Security' stuff should be concerned too. Does anybody here really think duct tape and plastic sheeting can help us? More on topic question: Since al-Queda outlawed music and tv, do you think computer art would also be something they would outlaw? Lin

Ok, wihtout going into gory details... Plastic sheeting etc only helps versus a moerate or low threat. Say mustard gas is released and you are down wind, it can help if you home is properly sealed, an doyu are upstairs or your home is higher, those thinsg increase chances of not being affected or only lightly. Dangers though are you can kill yourself from carbon monoxide poisoning with gas heating and such so be aware of that. Also after 20 minutes or so you want to be out of the room and in fresh moving air, most gasses will move on, just don't touch anything with bare hands! The odds of being affected by any such thing are utterly remote it really isnt much of a worry, your millions of times more likely to die by car accident. "Dirty bombs", many bioweapons and nerve gas are more dangerous, the particles finer and far more potent (though radiological weapons would kill you by long term cancer unless you were right next tot he detonation, in which case the blast/shrapnel would probably kill you anyway). However, those things are very dangerous for the terroists to use, good chance they'd kill themselves even before activating them (especially nerve gas and some radiological devices). Each of those types of attacks has its problems for the terrorist. Biggest risk for terroism woudl be if they hit soem snesitive place liek chemical plant, another plane attack, detonating a ship loaded with explosive chemicals in a harbour or maybe the use of gasses used in industry. Please try and keep these things in perspective though, 3000 people have been killed by terrorism in Ireland in 30 years. There's 3,000 peopel killed on the roads every year in Britain! Perpetrating terrorist attcks is complex and has a good chance of being detected and thwarted. 9/11 is an example of a cluster f*ck in security communications, but no one is perfect. The Taleban would outlaw such things, they destroyed two of the most ancient and huge statues of buddha, sued tanks to bulldoze walls ontp of folk accused of homosexuality, yet were huge suppliers of heroin. It has to be remembered that many Muslims are NOT Shiite extremists, just as most christians are not Reverand Jim Jones, Torquemada etc.

..grr damn typos..typing while eating dinner = bad :>

Thought the duct tape/sheeting was bogus. I guess officials think it will make people feel better to have something to do. Lin

it can HELP, but it ain't gonna do much if you are in a seriously dense cloud of VX gas, but that is extremely remote likelyhood. Stuff like that is so horrendous that the folk using it, unless very very careful, will die before they even release it, that's why they use it on missiles etc so it goes off far away from you. Terrorists would find it hard to get both the gas AND a proper delivery system unnoticed into your country. That stuff is seriously complex, needs a lot of equipment etc. Against more likely weapons like Mustard gas, some radiological stuff, a sealed room will help. It's just not like, guaranteed. Could well save your life, even against nerve gas if the release is thinned by time it gets to you and in low amounts. But you also have to seal the place correctly (air conditioning....) and not kill youself from lack of oxygen. But what folk ahve to realize is that terrorists ARE terrorists because they are inneffectual a*sholes! They cannot do much. However nasty this sounds, 9/11 was a blip, 20,000 americans are murdered each year, 9/11 killed 1,300. An attack by a major power would be devastating, kill millions, but terrorists are absolutely tiny in number and almost totally USELESS to their cause. They are counter productive. Sounds callous? Sorry but you should worry FAR more about your family being hurt or killed in car accidents, from smoking related diseases or alcohol abuse. terrorists kill miniscule amounts of folk each year compared to those three. terrorists use TERROR, because they can't actually DO very much, it's all based on fear, panic and alarm.

Silverblade, I' m not arguing with you about how there are more dangerous things than terrorists. I also don't think most people could properly seal a room and/or not get sick later from physical contact with whatever they are trying to avoid breathing. People freak out about things that are infrequent/spectacular and that they have zero control over. Thousands of people die in car accidents, and most people I know have at least been in a fender-bender, but not many people worry about their cars because they feel they have control and that it makes them safer. They way the media plays up stories also has a lot to do with it. I noticed with the shuttle crash that the newscasters all kept saying NASA was focused on the piece of foam, but NASA representives consistently said it was only one of several avenues. This is why I don't watch too much news. It skews the perspective. Lin

Yah the media are like pirahnas sigh :( still can't believe them asking "Is space travel too dangerous? Isn't it about itme NASA only used robot probes?" jeesH! ** morons! Astronauts are quit willing to take the risk, heck I'd take the risk no problemski. Not only are the risks LOW, they are wlel calculated and cared for, and the end result is WAY more important than the risk. Space is about the human race, not a pile of silicon chips. But dumb ass news casters jeapordaise it for some sensationalism, irrresponsible jerks, gah.