Well, Don has exactly the same geometry as Judy, so how one can have more mileage than the other is beyond me. That's why they both work in the face room. The clothes are irrelevant. You just have to adjust the joint parameters on clothes for other characters, along with some scaling, to make them conform to D&J. Yeah, it's easy to spot renders using the P5s. They're the ones where the characters don't like P4s or anything by DAZ.