Lemme see... I started with Poser 4(.03) and had to have the Pro Pack. Then I had to have Poser 5. Then M2, V2, V3, clothes, hair, accessories, funny looking animals, props, and so on. Then it was time to make my own models, so I had to have a 3D modeling program and UVMapper Pro. Settled on C4D R8 and Lightwave 7.5 for modeling. Had to have books also! So, what's the total so far? About seven gadgillion dollars! Or in the neighborhood of $5K to $7K in less than a year. ;) BYS