I like SoulCatcher's morph the best, incidentally. When I had P5, the one thing that always irked me was the fact that no matter how hard I morphed her, Judy would always look like Judy. Soulcatcher is the first I've seen to have actually made Judy look pretty (even though IMHO there's still quite a bit of Judy's shape in there...) I guess it's the structure of the skull itself, the way it frames the face... it all seems to look too similar to my eyes. Usually, Ingrid at Handspan does a kick-butt job of making a mesh look like something completely different - she even made ol' butt-ugly Dina look like a babe with the Katie morph... but even she couldn't un-Judy Judy's head... and if a highly talented artist like her can't do it, then who can? Perhaps, IMHO that was RDNA's undoing... they made the mesh look too much like a specific person. Most other meshes have anough of a generic shape to allow for damned near every contingency and morph. fis13 - you bring up a good point - they share the same geometry, but one is more versatile than the other. This is how I can best answer you on that: The DAZ Preteen Milgirl and DAZ' Vicky 2 share the exact same number of vertices and the exact same number of polygons, yet getting one mesh's clothes to fit the other's frame is nearly impossible. This is because of the way Poser itself works... and the limitation is unavoidable, no matter which proggie you use, since the differences lie in the reference object file. Same story with Don/Judy... w/ Vicky, I can make her look like anyone, or anything. W/ Vicky 3, I can carry it even further, molding her from a barely pubescent teenager to an old woman, from anorexic to mobidly obese... no sweat. I cna make each face unique in every way, shape, and form. With Posette, there are enough morphs out and actual magnet use to make her look like anyone - just a quick sweep of the Japanese Poser sites will produce a zillion differing morphs to give Posette a zillion different looks. The trick with Judy is to provide enough additional morphs and magnets to alter her fundamental head shape and to modify the way her face is framed. Otherwise, you always get Judy. To be honest, Judy's body is fine... it's essentially Posette writ with more polygons and shaped differently. The problem lies in the head. Fix that and you've fixed Judy. /P