I have been doing 400x415 with 16bucket, 4 raytrace (6 will kill even the newest highest mem system (24hours for 450frames!)) production firefly/raytraceon/noshadows and exporting as PNG - then I bring it into Jasc Animation Shop 3 (import full series of the pngs), crop, and then you can save as you want(avi, gif, seperate images, etc.). I need it for sprites (which is why I set the anti-alias to 1) for flashmx so export cropped frames from Animation Shop as png (keeps the transparent background information) then import to new symbol at flashmx. Do have to admit though that my win98/amd 650 laptop took around 24hours to render a 300 or so frame with same settings. Maybe XpPro does make a difference? or does intel?