I disagree with both ronstuff and Joerg ;-) Daz owns all of their meshes, including the V-line changes to their meshes. They are nice people that grant you a lot of priveledges to modify their geometry that they DON'T have to grant... but in interest of promoting their products and gaining more sales, they let us do a lot they don't have to let us do. Some people, they may grant more privvies than others, depending on how close the relationship is, and what is actually being done, and how its being distributed/sold. In the end, its all Daz's decision what they do with their work. I'm sorry to see Anton go, but you know, this stuff happens all the time to people in his position, and I do understand the why. He's always going to draw fire because he's a big icon around here, and everytime he tries to protect his work from theft, people that resent his talent and position, resenting the fact that he tries to protect it from their takg the shortcut by stealing his work... are going to band up and drag him down in the juvenile attempt to make themselves look better. And others not involved, seeing that BS, believe the little propagandas as the harrassers usually have more time to harrass and carry on. So its no wonder at all to me that Sargebear met a really nice guy that didn't resemble any of the stories about him. Consider the source when people tell you stories, is all I have to say.