ronstuff said, 'The problem arises when one claims ownership of all TRANSITIONAL values of each vertex between the settings of 0 and 1.000 - at some point the morph becomes "recognizable" but at lower values, combined with other custom modifications, I just don't see how anyone can claim ownership, as these transitional values are NOT recorded in the v-lines and are therefore "soft" values' Ronstuff, If you want 'transitional values', how about you make 'em yourself? It's like ripping bits off from 20 texture maps and saying it's yours. 'Soft values', my ass! mac