Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: DAM, by the time I rendered this the thread was locked!

Jim Burton opened this issue on Feb 18, 2003 ยท 17 posts


Migal posted Tue, 18 February 2003 at 10:34 PM

Awesome morph, Jim. How much? ;-)

I think Anton was trying to reply without getting complicated and confusing, which is understandable. There are a large number of potential scenarios and he could be covering questions for days that have already been answered almost a year ago over at PP by other DAZ folks.

That being said, people should be aware of exceptions resulting from combinations. For example, morph carrier cr2 files can contain custom non-DAZ morphs and they can be sold as the second half of a character, with the other half being DAZ morph dial settings in a pose file. (I realize that's asking a lot of the end user, which explains why this isn't typically done). The result would be a character based on DAZ morphs and custom morphs, so a blanket statement saying characters cannot be created from DAZ morphs and custom morphs has exceptions.

As someone else already stated, a simple letter or call to DAZ explaining exactly what you want to do can be very helpful. I recently did just that and received not one, but two replies from two separate DAZ people, both with the same answer. The question was regarding the freely distributable Steph LE cr2. I was surprised to discover it contains some of the same morphs as the full version of Stephanie. Granted, it's missing a few meg of deltas, but there are still a bunch of morphs in there. I wanted to know if they wanted me to strip those morphs before distribution, or if the opposite was true -- that I would be violating something by stripping the original Steph LE morphs. Both DAZ reps told me neither case was true. They know about the Steph LE morphs, but aren't worried about their redistribution like they are about the few meg of extra morphs that come with the full version of Stephanie. In essence, this creates another scenario whereby both DAZ morphs and custom morphs could be used to create a character. For instance, create a custom head in Lightwave, then add a pose file that applies both that custom head and some stock dials for Steph LE. This could all be contained inside one cr2 file. However, a pose file would also be required to join the custom with the stock and it should be noted that I am talking about Steph LE, DAZ's freely distributable cr2 version.

Now, I've only provided two examples and I'm sure there are more. Still, what I wrote was long-winded and boring, which is what I believe Anton was trying to avoid. I will say this about Anton: Every time I've dealt with him, he has been so cool it is ridiculous. Truly, I'm not a rump smoocher, and maybe I've just been lucky, but all my dealings with DAZ have been handled in a professional and courteous manner. They are, by and large, nice folks. The few exchanges I've had with CL employees were no different.

Note: Exporting custom morphs combined with DAZ morphs, then importing the result as one dial, would be a no-no, as I understand it, and I believe that was Anton's point. The combination should be accomplished by other methods, such as; half DAZ dial settings in a Pose file, half custom morphs as v-only obj files (such as StefyZZ's Asia) or a Morph Manager-friendly morph carrier cr2.

I cant stress enough how easy it is to resolve any potential disputes before they happen by simply addressing an e-mail to DAZ and specifically telling them what you are thinking about doing. You are their customer and they will treat you as such. If you create a character that will help them get more customers and/or grow the community, they know that is good for them. They will advise you how to distribute your creation.