The main problem I have with 3D modelling programs is that I have a terrible memory and even though I run through the tutorials, especially Rhino, again and again it always seems like the first time when I reopen it. On the other hand Bryce is an easy application because I've been using it forever but I realized recently that to get the model you want for a particular scene you just have to make it youself. That's why I got Rhino but I'm still on the learning curve, going downwards rather than up I think. Perhaps I should try something a bit easier to learn on, what would you suggest GG?