See, you can't go wrong listening to Phoul. When it comes to animation, he's one of the resident geniuses around here. His work will amaze you. And though c1rcle and I differ on the relative worth of Poser 5, he'd be one of those I'd recommend you exchange a few messages with. He's defintely got more patience and forgiveness than I. Here's hoping they can point you in the right direction. Take care, be well, keep flying. casamerica