:: (and ya don't see me do THAT very often, unless it's a bit of ordinance! :) ) um... um... dunno, can you just send a pp2 out the way you send out cr2's? but seems to me the pp2's have the geometries embedded in 'em. plus, there's no obj, so you couldn't use objaction mover... i hope you can, though, it looks delicious! :)