poly count is high ... not totaly certain but i know i's high .. i've been working on the shin guards today at work and they are 1013 polys each .. which isn't bad .. i've got the arms down to a descent level but if i remember right the breast piece is something like 20 or 30 thousand .. anyhow.. here's a pic of the armour from the front ..and un-squishified .. i didn't have the shins done when i di this but all the other pieces aren't up here so i can't render them with the rest of the armour. now i gotta make boots, figure out what i want to do with her thighs. get the poly's down on the breast piece, and get the shoulders poserized (they are already modled) then i'll be done and it'll be ready to go. will keep ya updated. :) take care Mordie