@FishNose: Well, this started out as a rant. A rant by definition goes against something. In this case my rant went against all those tiny noses and swollen lips. Well, some people certainly seem to like those swollen lips and non-existant noses - I don't. I prefer women with more natural faces. Apart from that, I think that this representation of women is somewhat degrading, as we all know, what that pouty look and those huge lips are suggesting. But it is all just a rant. I won't tell anyone what to do, I just blew some steam... Joerg P.S. And I still think that Cleopatra had a very nice nose - not a non-existant one. And she was considered one of the most beautiful women of her time.