heres the latest rendition of the armour ... still gotta get the poly count down on the breast piece and decide if i'm gonna do thighs .. and make a helmet .. and set materials for the shoulder pads ... and edit the cr2's to get rid of excess body parts ... but i've gone farther so far than any other project i've started ... i might actually finnish this one. Woo hoo .. go mordie go ! go mordie go! (sorry some times i need a cheering setion ... and when it comes to graphics stuff my wife gets the deer in the head lights look, nods her head, and walks off) :)