Phoul, Just so I am perfectly clear: 1st I would create the new character using the face room. 2. Copy the following folders from P5 to P4 * Goemetries/P5xxx * Textures/poser 5 Textures/figure textures/xxx 3. Create new folder in Libraries/character/xxx (replace xxx with which ever character/folder you need) 4. Set P5 preferences to do not use compression 5. Load (or create it?) your character and save to new library, this saves a .cr2 which P4 can read. 6. Copy .cr2 from P5 to P4 7. Load new figure and save as PZ3 (into P5? and this is when I would use mimic and otherwise animate?) 8.Load Vue4 and import to your scene and you are done. Thanks so much for your excellent expert help.