My prediction: This thread is going to end up with a ton of posts, and you will have a lot of angry comments directed at you, Butch. Why? One of my pet peeves: There will be plenty of people who read your initial post, then scroll all the way down and jump with flames into the conversation without bothering to read any of the intervening discussion. We'll see..but when we hit 40 or 50 posts, maybe I'll reply again and just say see post 23 lol