Well, since my image was one that stirred this up, I'll comment. I had my Vickie's "goodies" all covered. There was just a bit of lower breast hanging below her bikini top. The old rules said nothing below the nipples. - even bare skin. I think the new rules are okay. I can see where the image I did could be put in another scene and have a completely different interpertation(SP). Good luck guys, no set of rules will be acceptable to everyone -- the old rules weren't acceptable to me.