objFile :Runtime:Geometries:Shannas Make up:Mascara 1 mascara bottle_1 xyz >TAB space<2 mascara brush_2 xyz This should be objFile :Runtime:Geometries:Shannas Make up:Mascara 1 mascara bottle_1 xyz >TAB space<2 mascara brush_1 xyz Each prop in poser is named 'whatever_1', then if you add a second one of that same prop it's called 'whatever_2'. So both your pieces should be called '_1'. If that doesn't work, just call the pieces mascara bottle and mascara brush, with no '_1' after them. Because if the pices weren't saves to the library, they won't yet have a '_1' after them, until poser adds it. PHI Builder... Well, I use it to find the obj and make a PHI, then I open the PHI in notepad and set my own parenting, rotation, etc. I just use it to write out the body parts in text, 'cause I'm too lazy. LOL. shanna - You may want to set a rotation order of yxz for props. It usually works better for non-organic figures. Gimbal lock is what you get when 2 rotation channels are at odds with one another and the thing spins without rotating. I don't want to get into this now, but use yxz and you won't get it. mac