Wow! Thanks for all the responses. Seems I'm not in such a minority as I thought using dials only. I've been building furniture with the rotation order yxz, so that opening doors, windows, etc, is all done with the Twist tool and not Rotate. In fact, I've disabled the xz dials on most body parts to avoid the famous Gimbal Lock crisis. The bottom line is that a user who depends on the tools has to use Twist for almost everything, but this doesn't seem to be a problem. judging by the above posts. marvlin, 'I hadn't untill now realised how redundant the tool bar is for me' I realised it a long time ago and double-clicked it to name only, then shoved it at the bottom of the screen. If I do want a tool, I use the kb shortcuts. After all, there are only 5 or 6 of them. Hardly a feat of memory to remember the letters. xoconostle, 'I have a special hatred for the paint bucket tool (or whatever it's called.) It has a habit of mysteriously becoming the activated tool' I get this too and I it's from accidentally pressing that stupid WINDOWS key. Either that, or I hit 'C' instead of ALT. Since I'm continually using ALT to access the menu, I do that a lot. mac PS Do you all know that holding down ALT with any tool and dragging in the doc window, gives you the camera trackball effect?