Selling things, or not, isn't the point. Selling things here is the point. Like I said before, I'm all in favour of the free market, and for artists to make money doing what they do best. But business is business, and should be kept separate from social groupings founded for other purposes. If anything, that's just simple professionalism. Allerleirauh's analogy is almost there (with some reservations) , but a more accurate one would be a group of people taking advantage of their positions in a neighbourhood association and using the whole thing to their commercial advantage. An online store could have easily been set up in a different (virtual) place, with an ad-banner link from here for those who choose to follow it. The money making activities could have remained the same, and jolly good luck to them. It's a very important point of principle. It's irrelevant if the profits of the shop are ploughed back into this site, or spent on fast cars and beer. Why? (before reading on, please bear in mind that I have no axe to grind on the 'split' issue, and don't have any agenda regarding the other place) Why is because this place didn't start off as a business, it started off as a user community. The user community was founded as an online self help group. Free for any Poser user to join up and participate. The makers of the Poser program added the poserforum.com URL to the package as a link to a user community. Nearly all of the user base here comes here via that link, expecting to come to a user community. Although the effort put in by the people who run the internet side of things is extremely important and valuable, it's still the fact that the most important people in a place like this are the users who openly exchange ideas and items. They are what make the place worth visiting. They are the whole point of the place. As originally founded, that is. By the placement of the new online store right slap in the middle of this place, and it being called the same as this place, the user community has effectively become the front window dressing for a gallery shop. Every occasion somebody in this community takes the time and effort to answer a query, post a technique or make their work accessible, they subsidise that shop. They are essentially giving money to the owners of that shop. Why? Because the customers of that shop wouldn't visit if it wasn't for all the open exchange they otherwise come here for. The shop has burst out and clambered up on the back of a place that was established for other reasons. That place is already showing the strain. So open a store - fine. Top dollar enterprise, etc. But as far as this place is concerned, put an ad banner to it like all the other businesses that advertise. Make it stand on its own two feet. If the stuff there is good, word will spread. At best, the Renderosity Online Store is a clumsy and unprofessional effort created by owners who haven't thought things through long enough. At worst it's a parasitical cynicism of the most cheapskate, scurrilous kind. Either way, it makes the place an easy target for its enemies...