in the beginning of the year, BBay wasn't all too well known. many of the artists there were members, as well as contributors here in time, effort and energy. We added a link to the side bar, and once meeting the owner, Bill Bayard, and knowing him as a good person out to help the community artists, we brought our resources to aid him. (that's our mindset. Community aids community). we placed banners up for him. aiding him immensely. as time continued, thankful of our help, he offered to create a contest on our site, using the products he sell, which in turn would aid the artists who contributed to BBay. (BTW THAT was ANOTHER target we proudly wore) and through that, Bill, jack and i became good friends and talks of having BBay and Renderosity work closer together came about and we began planning. Enter: Murphy's Law. BBay went through the Mother of Technical Disasters. one after another!! Customers e-mailed, extrememely concerned about not getting Trav, georgeD, etc. next fantastic creation. The artists, some of which, HIGHLY depended on the cash that came from their sales to survive, grew VERY concerned. The next step was plain, and quite obvious. throw SOMETHING up. half done, still in the works, and build from there. ya see, PJ. we were looking to not only the community, but OUR FRIENDS. the very BASIS of what this site is about. FOR THE USERS. if we weren't, we would have NOT put it up, half assed and unfinished, but waited another month, maybe two to create a complete, fancy smancy store with all the bells and whistles in tact. we didn't do that. we helped our friends instead. and here i stand. Target in place. staring straight at anyone who wishes to take a pot shot. because i'm doing this for my friends. and will again. time and time again. the rest is your valid opinion and point of view. they are valued and respected. and has this is a community forum, your RIGHT to speak them. again, thank you PJ for taking the time and concern to voice them. take care.