Well, personally speaking whoever they are I think they have a point. I'm in the galleries most days, and while much of it is interesting I wouldn't call much of it "art" for the same reason that I don't call large lumps of Bronze with bits cut out of them "art", even if they are on public display. I'm no artist. I'm a hobbyist. To me this is the cultural equivalent of playing with dolls, mix and match, take a photo. I personally don't see that there is anything artistic about placing several products in a scene and hitting Ye Olde "render" button (so to speak) Just the same as if I wrote a story I wouldn't call myself an author. Or if I install a kitchen sink or a toilet, call myself a plumber. Which is not to say it's all crap, there is some stuff I call "art" in the galleries, but certainly not mine. I place stuff in the gallery more to "take part" than anything else. A sort of "you show me yours, I'll show you mine" deal, not because I'm under the impression that it's actually any good. I do pinups for the most part, and quick ones at that. I like them, your milage may vary :) later jb