Thanks, more info helps understand this better. I can see how this is really for developers or distributors of charcters. Pose files should start popin up all over the place for V3 now that this is out. I couldn't figure out how to make a pose file to distribute at all, it was boggling my mind and I'm not good at decyphering pz2 files. This will definately save time. Now I can get to building the perfect Gnome V3 character to beatup on all the elves :P Thanks again, cleared up a lot for me. dialyn - clearer for me, how about you? I often wear a dunce cap with poser, glad that I'm not the only one confused sometimes.