There was V3, face morphs and body morphs. Then there was a SR1 for the base, an SR1 for the faces, an SR1 for the morphs and a UVS update. Then there were SR1.1 for each of base, face, and body with same filename as SR1 Then there was SR1.1 for base, face, and body with unique filenames. As for the malepak... there was the malepak then... an update that couldn't find the original files. An update that could find the original files. An update that could find the original files (possibly the same update) and came with instructions for deleting loads of stuff (including stuff that wasn't there to delete). If you were really really lucky you'd get this set of instructions more than one, from more than 1 source at DAZ, each time proclaiming (in different words) "this is it - THIS is the real fix!". AFAIK all of the malepak fixes except the first fix have actually been identical - but I didn't keep them all. Hope that makes things clearer :)