I'm not putting you down. I was just offering my view. I said it was my opinion and my opinion alone. I rather expect no one to agree with me...that's okay. I admire the fact that you can create something worthwhile using only Poser. But I think if there is a Pure Poser genre, then each and every other software should also have a Pure choice because often Vue and Bryce are used in combination with other software. The would be fair and equitable. It also would get to be cumbersome. No insult there. Just equity. And disagreeing with you doesn't mean I'm putting you down. I respect your sincerity. I just don't see it is necessary. That's all. My opinion.