No textures LOL??? I still have that really nice folder called 'Antons photorealistic'. In fact, you weren't around to ask, and I adapted Shawna for Vicky--didn't post of course, but I REALLY needed a good tex for one of my first Vicky posts to show that it was possible to create some 'ethnic' Vicky's (pre--Zygote's morphs). Sooooooooooo glad to see you back. Everytime I looked at my (your) peacock, I wondered where in the world you were??? G. Diane B