Well the worst part of it all is that They are totally directing it towards mac, At one point they said that it would be Mac ONLY. But even though this may change, you know it will be completely optimized for a mac... < You know a comment like that would piss off Mac users. My first Bryce rendering was on a Mac and most of my pictures are done on a Mac. So lets reduce the anti-mac comments. There are Bryce users that use PCs and Macs, we are going to need their help. Its pretty simple, we need to send the right message to the right folks at Corel. Anything else is not going to work. Tell Corel, you have a product with a large and enthusiastic following. When you upgrade, we will buy your product. This has been the nth thread that is about Corel and Bryce. The last Corel/Bryce thread was filled with people worrying about Bryce and they were talking about emailing folks. If you want someone to send an email or snail mail letter, sign me up. Lets do something and stop these Corel worries about Bryce threads. Preaching to the choir is great but we need to get the word out.