I think a gentle approach always works best. I didn't like the implication that only Photoshop users can create art and so only users of Photoshop deserve a category of their own. It's not true. It's not fair. It's not the way to get support. I know it made some people angry that a Hobbyist category was developed. I like to point out that people have, for a long time, asked for something for those of us who are not beginners and yet don't consider ourselves artists. We didn't always refer to it as "hobbyist" but it was out there as an idea, but as a request and not a demand. I was as surprised as anyone when it appeared. It is not Poser only. It does, I hope, hold a promise of acceptance for those of us who are not professional artists and yet have moved beyond the basics of whatever software we use. If Poser dominates the category, it is probably because so many people use Poser here to begin with, not because the category itself excludes anyone. Inclusiveness here is important. Most of us use more than one software. It's a fact of life. Some of us place less importance on software pride than being able to create something without being chastised for not using the "right" software. Making fun of Poser is not the way to get what you want. Making fun of Paint Shop Pro is not the way to get what you want. Being respectful of the rights of others is very important. I have said, over and over again, that it is possible to make art with 2D software, and I have a great respect for the people who do. I just think that software doesn't have to be Photoshop. I also think the 3D artists would be lost without the contributions of those who work in 2D...the textures, the postwork, the backgrounds....there is a lot that is done in 2d before and after a 3D graphic is created. And, as remo pointed out, most of 3D graphcis end up being 2D at the end of the game anyway. I think we are in the middle of an evolution. I don't disagree with everything that was said. I think I would have been more supportive if it hadn't been implied that I was somehow a second class citizen for using Poser and Paint Shop Pro. You may not like what I do with the software I have...that's fine...but don't imply that I don't have a right to post just because I don't use the same software you do. I wouldn't have made that accusation of you. We don't have to agree about the important or unimportance of software exclusivity. I think there are ways to get additional attention for the 2D artists....positive ways, ways that show off what Photoshop can do, what Paint Shop Pro can do, etc. without denigrating anyone else. I honestly hope those solutions are explored.