I'm a Mac person and I'd never heard of cloners---so, thank you! And I think the Poser Forum is an appropriate place to post the info, since Poser's frequent crashes and hang-ups have resulted in (I am not making this up) 'panicked kernals'...... Whatever they are, they cause The Gray Screen Of Death and one of these days, I'm going to have to restore everything, and I will be blessing your name as I do ;)