heya; you can get the vue 3 demo and try it out for yourself too. :) (www.e-onsoftware.com) the material editor makes more sense, but i'm coming from bryce 2, where THAT was mostly random luck. i think bryce has easier skies and atmospheres, and vue doesn't have a random atmosphere generator. that'd be cool. i think bryce's terrain editor was more robust; vue kinda tries to get you to use an image editing prog to paint terrains, although it has tools to do it. and i love vue's erosion buttons, and the effects like stones, plateaus, grit, etc.