hello Shae. shut our traps on a Forum???..... hmmm. emotional comment. If i may ask, this skimming you did, was it upon the much smaller abrupt posts? did you, by any chance catch the post directly before you commenting on the politeness of the debate which ensued on the same thread which has turned your stomach?? i, speaking directly for myself, have, in the past, caught snippets of a conversation, and reacted vehementedly to it, only to find, if i had taken a few more moments, chosen my words a little more wisely...... i would not have acted EXACTLY in the manner that i myslef was accused(sp?) of acting. if i may say so, you say it disgusts you that there is name calling. (possibily in this thread?) and proceed to spill vileness and obnoxious comments. see the irony of your post?? you wish respect? show some. need an example, ACTUALLY read the posts between myself and PJF. he spoke his mind with clarity and common courtesy. for this, i returned it. you declare an affront to you directly. Then attack and insult in retalliation. do you see where i am going with this??? ed