Dang, posted a reply with an image, but it didn't go through. I'll try it again. Tried the solutions there Shademaster, to no avail. So what I did in this image is loaded in a second Penny, and applied Blackhearted's Selyne texture (for vicki2) on her. Also used one of Hmann's materials for the dress. Looks much better. So must just be the texture maps that are supplied with P5 are too light.