
Top one "Ice Wiz" was Bryce 5 demo, Poser demo, & 90% PhotoShop. I used the eye from an ad on Renderosity front page. LOL Second one "Fly Ball" was My new copy of Bryce 5 and Poser demo. I think I was still cranking up the old PII 500mgz. After that I went to Crome on Ocean stuff. hehe